Subscribe to our Insane Throttle YouTube channel for a wide range of biker shows and news Two years after a federal jury found the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, lawyers for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of being a secret government informant and [] "I was literally trying to destroy him," she answered, adding that she didn't understand what he was talking about in relation to Ciccone. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. agent, but they failed to persuade a judge to grant a new trial on the racketeering and conspiracy convictions against the club. "It grew to become clear that Dave had betrayed the membership, his oath and all the pieces we maintain sacred," the membership stated in an announcement. But he concluded that there was insufficient evidence to set aside the convictions, and that the club had made no showing that it was likely to prevail in any retrial. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. If you've been paying attention the last couple of years, the Mongols have been on a sort of federal probation and that's the club as a whole. Testimony resumed for a hearing in which a judge will decided if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. "He was afraid, and I think he turned on his loyalty to the club to protect himself. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC - Insane Throttle Biker News mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Live with Former Mongol MC Int. Hopefully it will go back internally and people can worry about the profiling and patch case. No one at all can keep blaming LEO (Which I do all the time) when there is gang shit happening all the time. The Mongols claimed in their motion for a new trial that Mr. Santillan had an inappropriate working relationship over the years with the lead A.T.F. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president was a confidential informant for the ATF. agent. David Santillan tells Eyewitness News that he was in a "really bad place" when the video was recorded and that he's never been disloyal to the Mongols. "I wanted him to feel kind of what I was feeling, the shame and embarrassment and betrayal. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. That was all it was about. This wasnt the case . She later recanted the assertion. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. He alleges that Santillan sabotaged the trial by not allowing him to call Ciccone to the stand. agent. READ ALSO | Was head of OC biker gang a 'rat'? This is the final statement on this because honestly it's mundane and boring. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. "I want Ciccone here under oath," Judge Carter told the prosecution team. Available on GOOGLE PLAY CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD FROM GOOGLE PLAY STORE. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. Former National Vice President of the T H U G Riders MC MOE CAPO MORALES. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. agent on the case, John Ciccone, sharing inside information about the club in exchange for lighter penalties for various offenses. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. Two years after a federal jury deemed the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, attorneys for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of. This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent.CreditMichael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. "John told me that I have one year, one year," Santillan says in the call. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. Judge Carter also pressed Annie Santillan on why she specifically called her husband a confidential informant and "a rat" if she was just trying to hurt him. Ciccone told him he was retiring. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. "He's retiring, he's retiring. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. Former Mongols Biker Club Leader Denies He Was Ever a Rat The Mongols Motorcycle Club allege that their former president David Santillan was a confidential informant during their RICO. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. Mongols National president lil Dave SNITCHES on own club, says "I have 1 year to plan exit strategy" @bimmerracer2010 Subscribe 774 Dislike 375 Share Would You Fly To Paris For A Baguette?. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. Episode Website. "Absolutely not, unequivocally no," says David Santillan. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. Anyone can read what you share. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Then the conversation, which she was. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. 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The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife David Santillan says he was thrown out of the Mongols after a "closed door" meeting where he did not get a chance to refute the allegations against him. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. The birth of modern-day Mongols came in 1969 in Montebello and the club's website pulls no punches about its beginnings as well as its vision. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html, 00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldnt cover this anymore BUT03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Wheres the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasnt it done all the time15:47 WOW he cant do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy, Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. Communications with Mr. Santillan, Mr. Ciccone said, were limited to such matters as ensuring public safety at Mongols events. Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. "This was a lifestyle, a culture, and a way of life. There was nothing nefarious about it.". Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. The biker group hopes to set aside a $500,000 racketeering conviction, alleging that its former president cooperated with the government during a trial. He raps off at the mouth like he actually knows what this scene is all about. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. After Judge Carters ruling, he declared vindication in what he said was a contrived internal political witch hunt to smear my name and to get me dethroned.. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. On Thursday, after hearing testimony from more than a dozen witnesses, including from Mr. Santillan himself, over the past several months, Judge David O. Carter of the Federal District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., found that there was no convincing evidence of such a claim and refused to set aside racketeering and conspiracy convictions as well as a penalty of $500,000. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. ", LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. "I love you, I love you," David Santillan says in the call. He explained: We wanted them to know we were there monitoring.. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! SANTA ANA, Calif. After federal prosecutors won a landmark racketeering conviction against the Mongols motorcycle club, in an attempt to put an end to the outlaw groups long record of murder, attempted murder and drug dealing, the Mongols countered with an unusual claim: Their leader, they said, had been secretly helping the government in its efforts to bring down the organization. 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The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. "I assumed it was going to be her, so we videotaped," Annie Santillan tells Eyewitness News. In other words, Ms. Santillan wrote in the text, he is a rat. In the video, played several times during the hearings, Ms. Santillan is talking to her husband on speakerphone when he informs her that Mr. Ciccone will be retiring. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video. Santillan says he ran into Ciccone when he went to pick up some Mongols property that had been released after the trial. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. In 2018, the club was convicted of. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case -- John Ciccone.